Once Upon A Time - {Dearies} Rumpelstiltskin/Mr. Gold | Robert Carlyle #47: Countdown to our Paleyfest *thudness*

**crazy_diamond** · 03-02-2013, 04:08 AM

Welcome to the 47th
☠Rumplestiltskin | Mr. Gold | Robert Carlyle☠
Appreciation Thread

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The Robert Carlyle Campaign Thread

☠The Dearies☠
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110. jenaya
111. cararum
112. Vera-Sabe
113. Ron_Cullen
114. Proud Dearie
115. Pomc
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117. The Girl In The Mirror
118. jerinna

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(On Rumplestiltskin's voice)“There’s no way I could speak in my normal voice while looking so extraordinary and while having this bizarre stuff to say,” the actor reasoned. “I tried many different types of voices and the thing that I landed on was completely by chance, really, thanks to my son. He was wandering though the house making these high-pitched voices and sounds I thought, ‘Rumpelstiltskin has a child-like quality to him, he kind of enjoys gleefully tricking people.’”

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There's something about these performances in the past few years. In a slight sense it’s about age but without a doubt it has also given me what I used to call weight. I remember when I was in Scotland and I first started acting with these older actors and they had weight. They didn’t have to act. It was just there. I think I’m finally on that path to gravitas.“

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“I feel with TV you’re allowed more freedom. With television there’s more time to create something through the episodes. The fact that you’re working harder on the surface seems more difficult, but you get into a way of working where if you’re not allowed to stop and breathe and think about it, you just go on instinctively, which is the way I prefer anyway. It becomes a more spontaneous thing.”

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(about Mr Gold) “I try to keep him absolutely neutral,” he says. “I almost do [Mr. Gold] in slow motion. It’s the exact opposite of what I’m doing with Rumpelstiltskin. He resonates calm. There’s not many times as an actor you get to play the opposite ends of the scale.”

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“I’ll spare you the actors’ pretentious rubbish, but a face reflects experience, so if you concentrate on a character something happens to you physically. Many actors look at the costume before the part, and that seems crazy to me. It’s much more fun to be ugly. Not that I think I’m ugly, but I’ve never considered myself good-looking.”

Fairytale Scene of the Moment

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Storybrooke Scene of the Moment

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“I guess, if I’ve got any role to play, I think I have to give a voice to the people who don’t have a voice. Thinking back to my childhood, the wee guy from the east end of Glasgow, this wee guy who was nothing, well I’ve made a career out of playing guys who are less than nothing. You know when you’re thinking about “is it possible for someone to come from nowhere?” then the answer is absolutely yes. But I tell you this: don’t think back. Thinking back can tie you up in knots and make you doubt yourself. Keep going forward, keep that water moving.”
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“For me, it’s a voyage of self-discovery. I’m able to go on a set and to explore situations, personalities, people and characters that are close to me, or maybe not. Through going there and experiencing these different people and their situations, it helps me to get oriented and develop as a human being. So, acting is fundamental to who I am.”

It gave me the opportunity to define this character for a whole new generation… certain parts you play all you’re thinking about perhaps is oh… voice or maybe movement. This was a combination of everything. I had to think about how he was going to move, how he was going to look, how he was going to sound… my six year old son is always wandering about the house with a strange voice saying [random noises] and I was like…”
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☠Future Thread Titles☠
"He is such a joy to work with".- Ginnifer
"I like Robert Carlyle's Rumplestiltskin. He does such a good job." - Jared
"I love how Carlyle says, 'I make gold.' He is amazing! - Jane Espenson
"He's amazing." - Emilie
“I really love what Robert has done with Rumple, and I love Mr. Gold." - Emilie
"They’re similar in a sense, obviously, but the subtle differences are cool." - Emilie
"He gives the character so much power, but in this episode his walls tumble down." - Emilie
"It's scary for him. And he plays that so beautifully." - Emilie
"You know what you love. Now go kill it."
"I like small weapons, you see - the needle, the pen, the fine point of a deal. Subtlety."
"All magic comes with a price. Now it's yours to pay."
"You owe me a favour. Something pre-cious."
Because he makes fairy godmothers go...*BOOM*
Because his agreements are always honoured.
"It is kind of hard to be afraid of you, as you're lovely and wonderful." - Ginnifer
"So brave, so gallant, so pointless...."

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**crazy_diamond** · 03-02-2013, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jerinna (View Post)

Hello, I've just joined this forum. I've been a huge Robert Carlyle fan for years. And I'm so glad to be able to see him regularly now in OUAT and recently in SGU.

welcome to the thread, would you like to be added to our list?

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Guys! The new forum poll is just out, and Bobby's on the list!

Go and vote!

I voted

Rhonwen · 03-02-2013, 05:35 AM

TFTNT..

Can't wait.. tomorrow a gorgeous double the trouble feast of our sexy man...

Jiorjiina · 03-02-2013, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jerinna;post68076947

Hello, I've just joined this forum. I've been a huge Robert Carlyle fan for years. And I'm so glad to be able to see him regularly now in OUAT and recently in SGU.

Also, come and join us in our campaign to be Bobby a forum of his own here!

Or just vote for him in this month's poll! We're doing pretty well right now....

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is it ok if i put the link on my signature like urs to help promote the campaign thread?

Of course it is! The more the merrier, really.

Rhonwen · 03-02-2013, 06:28 AM

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Also, come and join us in our campaign to be Bobby a forum of his own here!

Or just vote for him in this month's poll! We're doing pretty well right now....

Of course it is! The more the merrier, really.

We must vote for Robert...he's so deserving

Vera-Sabe · 03-02-2013, 07:09 AM

Thanks for the new thread!

Love the title!

yellowrose_bb_12 · 03-02-2013, 07:17 AM

Tftnt!

Rhonwen · 03-02-2013, 07:19 AM

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Betsybelle · 03-02-2013, 09:33 AM

I'm glad Jen notices that Gold has changed and is capable of being good, but I don't think she quite understands him based on this. For one thing, we all would do whatever we could to survive. There is NO way EVER I think Gold would hurt Henry or be a threat to him, not willlingly. It's possible that he could be a threat to him without realizing it.......My point is that Gold would die for Belle, he'd die for Bae. His life is worth squat to him when it comes to those he loves or cares for.

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TVLINE | But like you just said, we the audience now have to somehow reconcile that with the fact that he has this longer term plan that does not bode well for little Henry.

He does, yeah — and if there’s anything we know about Gold, it’s that he will do whatever it takes to save himself. That is obviously the most foreboding, knowing that if Henry is a threat to his life, he will definitely be a threat to Henry’s.

‘Once Upon a Time’ Season 2 Spoilers — Jennifer Morrison Interview - TVLine

Rhonwen · 03-02-2013, 09:58 AM

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I'm glad Jen notices that Gold has changed and is capable of being good, but I don't think she quite understands him based on this. For one thing, we all would do whatever we could to survive. There is NO way EVER I think Gold would hurt Henry or be a threat to him, not willlingly. It's possible that he could be a threat to him without realizing it.......My point is that Gold would die for Belle, he'd die for Bae. His life is worth squat to him when it comes to those he loves or cares for.

‘Once Upon a Time’ Season 2 Spoilers — Jennifer Morrison Interview - TVLine

I agree.. but they source may have taken her interview out of context.. I dont think Jen is that naive to not know anything about Robert's character. He has shown that he's changed, that he cared for those he loves.
But at the same time you're right.. it's a very basic quality to do what it takes to survive.

Betsybelle · 03-02-2013, 10:11 AM

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I agree.. but they source may have taken her interview out of context.. I dont think Jen is that naive to not know anything about Robert's character. He has shown that he's changed, that he cared for those he loves.
But at the same time you're right.. it's a very basic quality to do what it takes to survive.

Well she understands something of it, but she's making him out to be a lot more ominous than is necessary.

Ok, is it possible to love Bobby anymore than we do? He's such a warm, kind and wonderful person. It's so horrible that his "mother" left he and his dad, but he was lucky to have his father. This was in 2000 and so we know he has had kids and that Bobby is a wonderful and loving dad.

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Listening to Robert Carlyle talking about Malachy McCourt, the character he plays in his latest film, Angela’s Ashes, one can’t help but wonder if he realises the irony of his observations. Malachy was a drunken ne’er-do-well, struggling to bring up his family in Limerick, Ireland, during the Depression of the 1930s. Unable to get work or sustain a job because of his alcoholism, he abandoned his family.

Alan Parker’s film is based on the Pulitzer Prize-winning novel by Frank McCourt, Malachy’s eldest son. Carlyle had many conversations with him to capture the essence of the man he was playing.

“The main thing that came out of my conversations with Frank is that all the children loved their father until the day he died,” says Carlyle.
“They never forgave their mother Angela because of the relationship she later had with her cousin, but they forgave the father who walked out on them. He left because he had nothing to offer them.”

Carlyle’s analysis is particularly interesting when you consider his own circumstances. When he was a toddler, his mother Elizabeth walked out on him and his father Joseph. To this day, he refuses to mention her name. All he has said is: “I regard her as having died.”

But there is no doubt that this childhood trauma has formed his adult life. After his mother left, he travelled the country with his father, living in communes and never really forming any close relationships with anybody apart from his father. So it is hardly surprising the characters he has played so convincingly have at best been unconventional, at worst, dysfunctional. From the psychotic Begbie in Trainspotting, the psychopathic Hillsborough survivor Albie in Cracker and the equally psychotic villain in the latest Bond film (The World Is Not Enough), to the inadequate Gaz in The Full Monty and the hash-smoking Highland policeman in the TV series Hamish Macbeth, his roles have been far from safe or cosy.

Carlyle himself is not much given to introspection. But he acknowledges that he finds it easier to identify with losers than winners.

“I have always been interested in people who are marginalised in some way, people slightly outside society. My father loved Westerns, and in the ‘60s he used to take me to cowboy films. My heroes were Yul Brynner, Anthony Quinn and Steve McQueen. They played guys who did their stuff, rode off into the sunset and you didn’t know too much about them. And if you look through the work I’ve done there are similarities. When I look back, I think what an obvious choice it was to become an actor, and yet it didn’t occur to me till I was 22.”

Although Carlyle is an intensely private man, there is a warmth and sensitivity behind the dour demeanour. There are glimpses of it when he talks about his father, a retired painter and decorator.

“My dad has always encouraged me, probably in a way he doesn’t even realise. When I was a painter and decorator and announced, at 21, that I was going to drama school, everyone I knew laughed. The only person who didn’t was my dad.
“When I started doing research for Angela’s Ashes, he was incredibly helpful. He was born in 1930 in Glasgow to a family of 13 who lived in one room. He went to school shoeless and lived the life the McCourts lived. So he gave me an insight into that way of life. He has always been there for me. That’s why it was so wonderful to be able to take him to something like the Bond premiere in London. These were films he used to go and see in the ‘60s, and there was his son, up there playing the villain. He loved every minute of it.

“Three years ago I bought him a house. On the night we gave him the keys, my wife and I went to an electrical store and bought up the place. When we got to the house, my dad was standing in the doorway, crying, as all these things arrived. That’s a memory I will take with me for the rest of my life. That was me being able to do the right thing at the right time in my life for a man who has done so much for me.”
Despite his father’s encouragement, the path to film stardom was never going to be an easy one for a kid from the rougher side of Glasgow. Because of his erratic schooling, his teachers had written him off by the time he was 17.
“I’m sure every one of them would be shocked by what I’ve achieved. The careers advice people told me my best option was to join the Navy. I got as far as the door of the office, ready to sign up, and then I turned away. I’ll never know why.”

He is now one of Britain’s most bankable actors and was awarded the OBE last year.
“I’m the last person in the world you would have expected to be given an OBE, but it is a gift that has been bestowed on you and it should be taken with dignity. I certainly don’t think I deserved it, but maybe it’s because the films I’ve done have made a great deal of money for the country and I’ve decided to stay here making films.”

And, as he gets nearer to 40, Carlyle’s thoughts are turning to starting a family. He and his wife, Anastasia, have been married for two years.
“Until now I’ve been too selfish to want kids. Every actor has to be, to a certain extent. But, God willing, becoming a father is something that will happen in my life.”

http://0ceanofdarkness.tumblr.com/po...-carlyle#notes

Rhonwen · 03-02-2013, 10:21 AM

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Betsy I saw that interview about Angela's Ashes. it is a powerful story. I feel for Robert, and dont blame him about his mother. She left him, she made a choice. You never do that to a child. I'm glad his father was such a good man, and help make Robert the good man he is today..

Betsybelle · 03-02-2013, 11:08 AM

Wow, those are spectacular. Oh baby, you were always worth fighting for; it just took Belle to make you see it.

I saw this on a blog and wanted to post. It's in regards to Rumple avoiding war so he can raise his son. I completely agree. I think he is so brave, but he just doesn't know it - and it's simply been too easy for people to call him a coward. Being afraid doesn't make you cowardly, it makes you human. He's had the courage to love again, to open his heart, when by all accounts his heart should have been crushed. He's had the courage to listen to what Belle was saying and truly open himself to her. He's left his sanctuary in SB to go find his son, in the scary, wide open world he has no knowledge of. Rumple was brave. Gold is brave. It's in him..... Oh and of course his wanting to raise his son and not leave him fatherless is noble; to me he was heroic then, giving no fig about his honor and only giving a fig about his family.

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Can we just talk about this for a second?
Rumple was misled into thinking that his imminent death was around the corner.

Was he worried about that though? No. His problem wasn’t with dying, it was with never being able to rest eyes on his child. His problem was with leaving a child without a father.

And he got shunned for that.
He is one of the bravest characters in the series imho.

Rhonwen · 03-02-2013, 11:15 AM

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Wow, those are spectacular. Oh baby, you were always worth fighting for; it just took Belle to make you see it.

I saw this on a blog and wanted to post. It's in regards to Rumple avoiding war so he can raise his son. I completely agree. I think he is so brave, but he just doesn't know it - and it's simply been too easy for people to call him a coward. Being afraid doesn't make you cowardly, it makes you human. He's had the courage to love again, to open his heart, when by all accounts his heart should have been crushed. He's had the courage to listen to what Belle was saying and truly open himself to her. He's left his sanctuary in SB to go find his son, in the scary, wide open world he has no knowledge of. Rumple was brave. Gold is brave. It's in him..... Oh and of course his wanting to raise his son and not leave him fatherless is noble; to me he was heroic then, giving no fig about his honor and only giving a fig about his family.

He is one of the bravest characters.. he doesn't have to be a bully and act alpha male. He doesnt push women aside roughly. He doesnt have to demean women and sexualize them.. no wonder Belle love's him so. He's brave without a doubt.

And it will be great when Neal sees this change in him..


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